Melody Maker November 28 1998
ASH
DISH THE DIRT
Did you know Tim's nickname at the scouts
was 'Timmy Testicle' or that Charlotte guzzles Vodka? We make each member
of Ash leave the room in turn, and ask the others to reveal the hidden
scandal and gossip.
"No," is Ash's Flying V-welding
frontman Tim Wheeler's immediate response. "I don't think we've told you
any lies. We should have really, but hey..."
You'd half expect them to. And
you wouldn't blame them if they had. In fact, it'd probably have been wise,
considering.
Sat in the lounge of Ash's tour
bus parked up a tiny backstreet outside Rotterdam's Night Town venue, it's
just like the old days again. Time was when Ash were just three lads, old
school friends from Downpatrick, Northern Ireland.
Except that they were never just
three lads: Top Five hits, a world tour, a Number One debut album, a sell-out
five-night run at London's Astoria, the only band ever to headline Glastonbury
twice... in the same year, augmenting their line-up with a cool as hats
girl who brandishes a guitar like she was born with it attached. And then
there's the breakdowns, the gin, the drugs, the rows, the writers block.
Since their debut, the sumptuous "Jack Names The Planets", touched down
way back in January 1994, they've been there, done that and got the cap-sleeve
T-shirt to prove it.
And now it's just the three of
them again - Tim, drummer Rick McMurray and bassist, Mark Hamilton - sat
on a tour bus on the European leg of their second world tour. Inside the
venue, Charlotte Hatherly, Ash's fourth member is nervously pacing up and
down the dressing room. And for good reason.
See, for all the ups and downs
of their phenomenal rise, for all the records they've sold, blistering
live shows they've played, not a whole lot is known of them as individuals.
Sure, we've heard the rabble-rousing tales, we've heard the rawk missives,
the dressing room shenanigans. They've played up to the rock stereotype
with ladles of style. Now it's time for some home truths.
Alienation. Paranoia. Guilt.
Make them sweat. Want to know what Ash are really like? Best to find out
from those who know them inside-out: the others.
So the idea is to send one out
of the room, while the other three dish the dirt. And to repeat the trick
with the whole band. Gloves off, no-holds barred. Worried? They should
be. The truth is out there.
Seconds out. Ding ding.
CHARLOTTE HATHERLY
In one
word?
Mark: "Hedonistic."
Rick: "She's good at
getting trashed every night. I really like her enthusiasm for hedonism.
I wish I could think like that."
And
her weaknesses?
All: "Vodka"
Mark: "She can be easily
led astray when she's drunk."
Needs
protecting then?
Rick: "Charlotte just
gets on with her own thing, but we do keep an eye out for her. If she ever
needed any help, we'd definitely be there. She's more than capable of looking
after herself.
Tim: "The funniest thing
was on the UK tour. Mark was going, 'Fucking hell, Charlotte gets totally
pissed every night and I have to help her to bed. And everyone goes, 'What
the fuck are you talking about? What have we been doing to you for the
last couple of years?'!"
Mark: "She's made a real
difference to the band, she's made us really stand out. We tried a few
blokes when we decides we were going to get another guitarist, but they
were just... boring."
Does
she have any bad habits?
Mark: "She's always loosing
things: her wallet, clothes. She looses loads of clothes."
Rick: "She's really messy,
too. She leaves shit all over the place."
Mark: It's not exactly
a bad habit, but if you've finished your food, she'll go round to other
people's plates and have a bit of a scavenge. And..."
Rick: "Here it comes..."
Mark: "She plays Led
Zeppelin CD's all the time. Sometimes you'll be in rehearsal and she'll
start playing all this really discordant stuff like (makes a noise like
a hacksaw cutting through a blackboard). It's maddening."
Who
does she get on best with in the band?
Tim: "Maybe Rick."
Mark: "Me and Tim are
always getting bothered by things, Rick's more like Charlotte, in that
they don't get that stressed out."
Is she
romantic?
Tim: "She goes through
phases with romance, but she seems to get bored very quickly."
Rick: "She became single
very recently and seemed really happy about it. She was getting used to
the idea of being single. Then we had five days off, and when she came
back, she had a new man!"
What
would she be like to go out with?
Tim: "I don't think it
would be very serious... Oh God, I don't fucking know."
Rick: "Not my type."
Tim: "I can see how she'd
be attractive to a lot of people, but again, not my type. It'd be like
sleeping with your sister."
Mark: "It's like I can
say Tim's a good-looking guy, but, you know, he doesn't do anything for
me."
What
pisses her off?
Tim: "If she does get
pissed of, it's very hard to see it. She doesn't show it."
Rick: "She got burgled
recently, I think that pissed her off a bit, but that'd piss off most people."
Tim: "She's still getting
used to the whole press thing, stuff about her that's not true or bullshit
about the band, that still pisses her off."
What's
the best way to wind her up?
Mark: "Drink her vodka."
RICK MCMURRAY
In one
word?
Tim: "Funny... No, eccentric."
Mark: "Odd."
Tim: "Misunderstood."
Mark: "Strange."
Charlotte: "He's very
funny, but there's more to him than just a sense of humour."
Mark: "He's a smart cunt.
He didn't revise for his A-levels and he got straight A's!"
How
easy is it to wind him up?
Mark: "We like to wind
him up, especially about not coming on the Elastica tour. He was at university
and couldn't be arsed! The tour felt really fundamental in the rise of
the band and he missed it."
Mark: "We took two weeks
off school..."
Tim: "And Rick had two
hours a week at university. If he'd toured, he'd have missed four hours
of lectures."
Do you
think he regrets it?
Tim: "He probably doesn't
give a shit. He once said he's the most can't-be-arsed person in the world."
Does
he get pissed off?
Mark: "He was pretty
angry when we did the B-sides to 'Jesus Says'."
Tim: "It was the first
time we had to do two CD's and we had to do some B-sides purely for chart
reasons. Me and Rick didn't want to do it, so we went out and got totally
pissed, and had a bit of a tragic night. I got up the next morning and
found that Rick had flown back to Belfast."
Mark: "So we got Danny
from Supergrass to do some drumming. I don't think Rick was too happy with
that."
What's
his type?
Tim: "Belly dancers.
Big girls. A nice full figure."
Mark: "He likes to sleep
a lot and shag and that's about it. He likes to do a pub quiz with his
friends. That's all he ever says he does."
Is he
a hit with the opposite sex?
Tim: "He is with his
girlfriend. He's always telling us about it. There was this fan who used
to write him all these fucking dirty letters. He attracts more of the wierdos.
He kept getting letters off her going on about his arse."
But
he's the drummer. Sits down all the time. At the back...
All: "Good point."
Thank
you. Whats he like when he's pissed?
Mark: "He's a lunatic.
He used to get outrageously drunk, to the point where he was out of control.
he's a lot better now. He still has his moments though. Probably the worst
was when we were getting an aeroplane from Thailand to Australia. He was
paralytic. he was ringing the attendant button and the stewardess arrives
and goes, 'Yes sir, what would you like?' And he goes, 'I want a big bowl
of fucking cum.' She just ignored him and went away, but he rang again
and when she came back he goes, 'You know what you want? You want a big
Irish cock.' He can be really ignorant when he's drunk."
Charlotte: "Then
there was this time he was on the plane reading a copy of Celebrity Skin
magazine... he was sat next to a priest."
Tim: "He does not give
a fuck."
Who
does he get on best with in the band?
Tim: "I get on best with
Rick."
Charlotte: "I find him
the easiest to talk to. I probably have the most heart-to-hearts with him."
Mark: "We like to slag
each other off all the time, but that's just for fun. We have got really
close, crying on each other's shoulders and saying how much we love each
other, stuff like that."
What
was your first impression?
Tim: "At school discos,
he used to wear black cowboy boots and a white muscle top. we thought he
was a wierd guy. I couldn't quite put my finger on what he was all about."
TIM WHEELER
One
word to describe him, please.
Rick: "Short."
Mark: "I first met him
when I was 11and he was tiny. Like, really tiny. his nickname at scouts
was Testicle."
Rick: "Because his name
stars with a 'T'?"
Charlotte: "Timmy Testicle."
Rick: "The first thing
I noticed about him was his boundless energy. He still has his moments;
in the studio, he's still bouncing around the room at five in the morning
going, "Let's go for another take.'"
Charlotte: "My first
impression was, you're... so... short."
His
weakness? If it's any of our business...
Charlotte: "He didn't
have much confidence in himself with the new songs. He had a DAT full of
brilliant ideas, but he didn't think they were good enough! He can be a
bit too self-conscious."
What
kind of person is he?
Rick: "When he gets wound
up about something, he gets really, really wound up."
Rick: "He keeps it all
bottled up then it gets to the point where it all comes out at once. He's
also really charming. He's the first one to jump in and start chatting
with an outsider."
Charlotte: "Whenever
he meets fans, he's always so chatty and lovely. We always end up having
to drag him away."
Rick: "It's classic at
Reading. We'll be going to do an interview or something, and it'll always
take him 20 minutes to walk through the VIP bit. The normal reaction is,'I'll
see you later, I'm just off to do this.' He starts chatting to people,
I'm sure life stories get told to him as we're walking through."
Not
too chatty onstage though...
Mark: "He's never really
been one to talk to crowds too much."
Rick: "There's been some
funny moments. On the '1977' tour he was like, 'Has anyone got the new
album?' Silence. He tried it again at another show. Silence. Again."
Is he
reliable?
Mark: "Oh yeah... reliably
late."
Rick: "He's always 45
minutes late. If there's a cab picking us up, we'll get to his house ad
he'll still be in his pyjamas. Something in his mind just doesn't click
and say,'Shit, I better hurry up.' It kind of goes, 'Shit, there's a cab,
I better potter around the house, feed the cats.'"
Charlotte: "It's got
to the point where you know you can be late, because you know Tim's not
going to be there."
Mark: "He's got wierd
eating habits, too. He likes wierd food products, stuff that shouldn't
be eaten by humans. Anything with a list of at least 20 E-numbers."
Rick: "They fuel his
dreams."
What's
he like when he's pissed?
Mark: "It's rare to see
Tim pissed. When he gets really drunk, it's pretty funny. he never used
to be into smashing dressing rooms, but recently he... erm, is. I think
he's enjoying himself more, instead of seeing touring as a pressure, he's
realised that it can be fun."
Rick:
"And going through the experience once before helps. The first time, he
was a bit worried about it."
Is there
anything you'd like to change about him?
Mark: "His lateness springs
to mind."
Rick: "Maybe it's because
he's got short legs and it takes him longer to get places."
Who
does he get on best with in the band?
Mark: "Probably Rick.
They have a touchy, feely thing."
Rick: "He does touch
me a lot actually. I don't really know why. There's definitely sexual undertones,
a Mulder and Scully-type thing."
What's
his most appealing quality?
All: "His arse."
Charlotte: "He's got
a really lovely arse in his tight blue jeans."
Rick: "Oh it looks good.
Being the drummer, all I get to see onstage is Tim's arse."
Is he
a hit with the opposite sex?
Rick: "Yeaaaah."
Charlotte: "Because of
his..."
Rick: "Stature?"
Charlotte: "Apparently
he has got a big one."
MARK HAMILTON
First
Impression?
Charlotte: "That he'd
never, ever, ever look at me. He'd talk to me but he'd always be looking
down... which I thought was quite strange."
Rick: "It takes a long
time to get to know Mark."
Tim: "He was hard work
when I first got to know him. He moved to my town when we were about 11.
he was just this wierd kid. The first time I approached him was when I
saw him wearing an Iron Maiden backpatch. If he can't relate to you, he
doesn't give a fuck."
At our
cover shoot he was very hands on, helping our snapper out. Unusual behaviour
for a pop star?
Tim: "That was very Mark.
He does that all the time. He's good at... I don't know what you'd call
it, but he's good at it.
What's
his most appealing quality?
Charlotte: "He's very
open-minded..."
Tim (choking): "What?
He's very narrow-minded when it's something he's never experienced
before."
Charlotte: "He's very
sure that what he thinks is right and proper and that's the way it is.
But you can have a good chat to him about his theories on life and stuff.
He's got lots of theories."
Rick: "Mad ideas."
Does
he have any bad habits?
Tim: "He likes to be
looked after, mothered."
Rick: "You can hear him
shouting from his bunk in the morning - 'Whats the weather like? Where
are we? What day is it?'"
If you
could change one thing about him, what would it be?
Tim: "I wouldn't want
to change him. That's what he is. He's unique."
Who
does he get on best with in the band?
Tim: "I think it's about
the same with everyone."
What's
he like when he's pissed?
Rick: "Out of control."
Tim: "Sometimes we call
him 'Wrecking Ball'. He quite likes destruction. He's definitely got a
mischievous streak."
Rick: "The more you tell
him not to do something, the more he wants to do it."
If you
had to write a personal ad for him, what would it say?
Rick: "Bastard lanky
streak of piss."
Requires?
Rick: "... looking after.
It's really funny, he phoned up our management company when he first moved
to London because his electricity wasn't on. He thought he could get them
to sort it out."
Tim: "If there's an easy
way to do something, he'll totally abuse it."
Is he
a hit with the opposite sex?
Charlotte: "Mark is fucking
great onstage, he looks so cool. I can totally understand why people go
for him."
Would
he be a good person to go out with?
Rick: "It would be all
right if you enjoyed looking after someone."
Charlotte: "I think he'd
be hard work, but he'd be very loveable if you were prepared to give him
that amount of time."
Has
he got good taste?
Tim: "If Mark says a
movie is really good, don't go and see it. He loves Hollywood blockbusters.
'Titanic' is his favourite movie."
Rick: "He's obsessed,
he thinks he drowned on the Titanic in a past life. He's had a sequence
of vivid dreams about it."
One
word to describe him.
Tim: "Mentalist."
NEIL MASON
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